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Olga
Adorno
Eric
Andersen
Robert
Ashley
Joseph
Beuys
Jean-François
Bory
George
Brecht
Günter
Brus
John Cage
A. &
H. dos Campos
Giuseppe
Chiari
Henry
Chopin
Henning
Christiansen
Heinz
Cibulka
Philip
Corner
Robert
Delford Brown
Willem
de Ridder
Giuseppe
Desiato
Sari Dienes
Erik Dietman
Jean
Dupuy
Esther
Ferrer
Robert
Filliou
Albert
M. Fine
Henry
Flynt
Lucio
Fontana
Simone
Forti
Ken Friedman
Eugen
Gomringer
Raymond
Hains
Al
Hansen
Bernard
Heidsieck
Geoffrey
Hendricks
Jon Hendricks
Dick
Higgins
Alice
Hutchins
Isidore
Isou
Joe
Jones
Michel
Journiac
Nam June
Paik
Allan
Kaprow
Milan
Knizak
Alison
Knowles
Robert
Lax
Jean-Jacques
Lebel
Fatma
Lootah
Alvin
Lucier
George
Maciunas
Jackson
Mac Low
Walter
Marchetti
Larry
Miller
Charlotte
Moorman
Michael
Morris
Hermann
Nitsch
Ann Noel
Ben
Patterson
Jeff Perkins
Gerhard
Ruehm
Takako
Saito
Thomas
Schmit
Rudolf
Schwarzkogler
Paul Sharits
Daniel
Spoerri
Serge
III
Ben
Vautier
Wolf Vostell
Yoshimasa
Wada
Bob
Watts
Emmett
Williams
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A
fluxographic autobiography by Francesco
Conz
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This
year I'll be 55 years old. During the first twenty years
of my life deep in the heart of the province of Padua. I
tried to do what my family expected of me. I was sent to
the Catholic University of Milan to study economics and
business, and before me lay the life of a son of a good
middle-class family with very traditional and religious
values. Then, quite suddenly, and for reasons too complicated
to describe here, I broke off my studies and left with all
my belongings-first stop, France.
In a
word, the notorious post-adolescent crisis.
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With
Alan Kaprow, Encinitas (USA), 1993.
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I toured
Europe endeavoured to do whatever my family did not expect
of me. Trained to command, I put my hand to every immaginable
trade and learned to obey.
I learned
many languages; a passion for culture led me into innumerable
galleries, museums, libraries etc...
In a
word, I had entered upon the difficult path of the self-made
man.
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Half
way through the sixties, I returned to my little town of
origin, pitied by all (including my family) because I had
not made fortune abroad (in these days, when someone returned
he did so showing off a fancy automobile and telling stories
of his economic triumphs). What is more, I had taken part
in person in the uses and abuses of the beat generation,
and my views and my ways created a scandal. Son of a family
of partisans, proud possessors of an ancestral medal of
courage (for one of the heroes of Garibaldi), I had incurred
the family disapproval by marrying a blonde girl from Hambourg.
My good
partisan brothers, who had never foot outside of Italy,
convinced that Germans were accustumed to devouring children,
quite understandably were concerned for the continuation
of my descendancy. However my excellent sense of smell did
not fail me, nothing happened to my two sons who enjoy the
best of health.
Those
were the years of hand labor : family business and business-family,
then business business business.
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With
Jean Dupuy, FRAC Bourgongne (France), 1999.
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With
Otto Muehl, Friedrichshof (Germany), 1986. © Mario
Parolin

With
Hermann Nitsch, Frankfurter Buchmesse, 80's. © G. Jaschke

With
Günter Brus, Graz, 1998.
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I had
begun to collect art, and, like any beginner, I sought out
the advice of the more experienced professionals.
That
is how conventional collectors made such successful careers
in Italy (but only in Italy), - with the help of the Madonna
and of the political parties. However this yielded me no
satisfaction at all : I had no relations with the "masters"
and took no part whatsoever in their creativity. Hence no
fun there!
In the
beginning of the seventies I thought of poening a gallery
in Venice and did so. This was an addition to my life, mow
composed of family business and gallery. I had taken a step
forward. Liquidating my former collection (scandalizing
as usual my farsighted collector-colleagues, who still hab
not forgiven me my later choices), I concetrated on what
the fashionable newspapers called "the new avant-garde"
: in a word, on those artists who were assiduosly published
in architectural reviews and who it was very chic to have
in your home.
But
even this situation was not satisfactory to me. These mew
masters gave themselves incredible airs, and I, a neophyte
gallery-owner, had little to offer them except my few pennies
which they took, albeit with much disdain. For the end of
1972 I had to sojourn in Berlin for business reasons, and
there Saint Francis, my patron Saint and Protector against
discouragement and dejection, led me to become acquainted
with Joe Jones who spoke to me of the Fluxus group and of
Gunther Brus, who introduced me next to Nitsch and Muehl
and thus to "Viennese actionism".
Very
excited, I returned to Italy and attempted to complete my
knowledge of the phenomenom. I visited Nitsch in Diessen,
Münich (where he was in temporary exile), and I had
the good luck to meet Gerhard Rühm who spoke to me
for the first time of the Wiener Group and of "visual
poetry". I went home and in a month liquidated the
gallery and my second collection.
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A few
weeks later, with Beatek, NItsch and Brus we left for a
trip to New York and I, well supplied with first names,
family names and notes by Joe Jones, began to visit the
artists who had so greatly interested me. On my return another
miracle from my Holy Protector : immediately after a televised
interview I received a telephone call from the distinguished
Count Orazio Baglioni di Asolo who wanted to meet me and
offered to rent me a palazzo in Asolo. Met agreed, done.
Now, I had a worthy headquarters for my new activities,
with premises on the ground floor soon to be the site of
exhibitions. This was truly a magical moment in my life,
and Asolo was still immersed in the memory of former cultural
glories. Eleonora Duse seemed never to have passed away
and Robert Browning and Malipero still appeared to be sunning
themselves on the terrace of the Caffe Centrale. Those were
times in which the Cipriani restaurant had its tables set
with silver and linen-cloths, and the Caffe Centrale possessed
the romantic aura of a Viennese meeting-place. Asolo, far
from the ski resorts and beaches, had remained protected
from tourism. A true paradise for artists, for me and for
art.
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With
Henri Chopin, Cobbins and Emmett Williams, Leicester
(England), 1998.
Joe
Jones established
himself there (where he would remain until 1978),
and it was also there that Nitsch in June of 73 created
his most representative environment, "Asolo Raum".
Marvelous evenings, creative meetings, dinners in
the inns of the surrounding countryside and unending
discussions in the Caffe Centrale into the early hours
of the morning.
Works
which have become history were done there from 1973
to 1979; the following artists worked and stayed in
the town : Eric Andersen, Heinz Cibulka, Philip Corner,
Giuseppe Desiato, Al Hansen, Geoffrey Hendricks, Jon
Hendricks, Juan Hidalgo, Dick Higgins, Milan Knizak,
Alison Knowles, Joe Jones, Michel Journiac, Jackson
Mac Low, Walter Marchetti, Charlotte Moorman, Otto
Muehl, Nam June Paik, Gerhard Ruehm, Takako Saito,
Carolee Schneemann, Bob Watts, Emmett Williams, and
so many others. (...)
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With
La Monte Young and Peter Moore, Emily Harvey Gallery, New
Y ork (USA), 1996.
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With
Milan Knizak, Stamperia Traper, 1994.
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I
am grateful to art for having freed me from the destiny
which I seemed to have been born for : businessman, exemplary
parent, bourgeois model. I am grateful to art and to artists
for having taught me a different model of life : you don't
have to be a businessman even when you seem to have been
born to it; you can love your family in a different way,
and it's not necessarily the worst solution. Born into a
middle-class family it's best to remain middle-class, providing
you keep befor your eyes the most enlightened and not the
most made-up and useless people of fashion. I live in Europe
now and often in Verone which is the seat of my activities
as a publisher.
The
Fluxus family is a part of my program and now Asolo (not
to be remembered like a period dead and buried) relives
with all the positive corrections which experience and age
have brought. The family is more than 25 years old and almost
all its members have joined the third age, including myself;
we have become more or less wise and had to bid adieu to
our habits, including drinking into the wee hours.
Someone
asked me recently, "Francesco, you live with artists,
you take part in their creative work. Do you consider yourself
to be an artist"? I answered, "Yes, I consider
myself to be an artist also. I do my job as publisher as
a publisher of the fifteenth century would do, endeavouring
to offer the best and to do my best". This is what
the religion of art has taught me and what Fluxus has prescribed.
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Francesco
Conz
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With
Henri Chopin, Perugina (Italy), 80's.
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Fluxus
S.P.Q.R., Factotumbook
44, may-june 1990.
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A week with Francesco Conz
(Richard Kostelanetz, 1991)
An
interview by Nicholas Zurbrugg
Asolo
and Afterwards: A Voyage through Archive Conz by
Henry Martin
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